#29509 11-03-2007 08:31 AM | Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 35 Contributing Member (25+ posts) | OP Contributing Member (25+ posts) Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 35 | Hi all,
I want to make this post as brief as possible, so here goes:
--Neck mass, inconclusive scope (no tumor visible). --Went in for neck mass exision (biopsy inconclusive). --Came out with removed lymph node (3 cm), tonsil removed, salivary gland removed, neck nodes and tissue removed. Neck dissection. --Tonsil was primary, very small tumor (T1). --No other nodes involved, no extracapsular spread. --I was staged Stage II.
I still have to talk to the doctors this Wednesday about treatment. However, my ent said they will recommend surgery and chemo.
I'm confused about the staging, as a neck node automatically puts you Stage III? Is this the case, or are there gray areas in the staging? Any experience here will be appreciated.
I'm concerned about the followup treatments...is it a general consensus that radiation and chemo be recommended for all neck metastases (even in my case if it is Stage II)?
From reading info on this site, it appears that all cases are different, but treatments appear to follow a general protocol.
Thanks in advance,
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#29510 11-03-2007 12:05 PM | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 | staging has more to do with the size of the tumour,and is fully explained on the main web site.
liz
Liz in the UK
Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007 Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.
Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
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#29511 11-03-2007 04:02 PM | Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 14 Member | Member Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 14 | Oscar, My husband is only being treated with radiation. He had a 3.5cm lymph node removed from his neck which was secondary site. Primary was a small tumor at base of tongue. Tumor was not removed. We had 2nd opinion with head & neck specialist at Rush Medical. Specialist said no chemo was necessary. Keith is doing 35 rad tx and had 17 on Friday. He is really feeling bad; had PEG put in on Monday. I think each case is different. Ask lots of questions and get 2nd opinions. Good luck to you, Cat
CG of BT SCC Stage IV age 55 8/30/07 lymph gland removal and Base of Tongue biopsy. Radiation started 10/10/07 x 35 IMRT.
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#29512 11-05-2007 04:19 AM | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 214 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 214 | My tonsil tumor was 2cm, removed without clear margins. They told me it was stage II, bacause of the size of the tumor. I believe it was written T2N0M0.I required full neck radiation and chemo. I am confused about staging as well.
Left tonsil SCC, HPV+. T2N0M0. Tonsillectomy 3-07, bilateral radiation, cisplatin 3x, Tx completed 6-06. Clear PET 4-01-2008. Thyroidectomy 5-9-08, resulting in permanent surgically-induced hypoparathyroidism and adrenal problems. Bummer. | | |
#29513 11-05-2007 05:39 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 720 Likes: 1 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: May 2006 Posts: 720 Likes: 1 | Here, from the main part of the OCF website, is an explanation of the way these cancers can be staged. It includes to a link to an article published in 2005 in the journal CA about revisions in the staging protocols for head and neck cancers. According to the National Cancer Institute , there is not a direct correlation between TMN staging and the Stage I-IV system (the NCI notes that, for example, a tumor described as T3N0M0 is stage III in bladder cancer but stage II in colon cancer). -- Leslie
Leslie
April 2006: Husband dx by dentist with leukoplakia on tongue. Oral surgeon's biopsy 4/28/06: Moderate dysplasia; pathology report warned of possible "skip effect." ENT's excisional biopsy (got it all) 5/31/06: SCC in situ/small bit superficially invasive. Early detection saves lives.
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#29514 11-05-2007 07:23 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 598 | In follow up with what Leslie said, it is important to distinguish between the Stage of the Tumor (the T part of TMN) and the overall stage of the disease. In my case the tumor was only just 2 cm, making it a T2 tumor. However, because I had 2 positive lymph nodes (1 enlarged to about 2.5 cm, 1 not enlarged), my disease was Stage IVa. It can be very confusing, and very scary, as all of Stage IV tends to be lumped together in a lot of studies, and there can be material differences. Jeff SCC Right BOT Dx 3/28/2007 T2N2a M0G1,Stage IVa Bilateral Neck Dissection 4/11/2007 39 x IMRT, 8 x Cisplatin Ended 7/11/07 Complete response to treatment so far!!
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