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#174776 12-02-2013 10:54 PM
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Hi,
I am Naveen 39yr detected with tongue cancer.
gone through the surgery on 8th October- 13, 27 nodes sent for examination all are negative.
Dr also told me no further treatment is required but regular followup is required.

Please let me know what precautions should I take & what are recurrence chance .

Naveen

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Hi Naveen - You have come to the right place for help and information from people who have had similar experiences to yours. It would help if you could give us more information about where exactly the tongue cancer occurred, for example was it further back where the tonsils are or in some other area of your tongue. Was there a biopsy performed before you had the surgery? Did the doctors say what Stage it was? I'm sure others will be along to welcome you and help you with information. Until they get to you, maybe you could read the information on the main pages of this site - just go to the very top of this page where it says "Oral Cancer Foundation". There is excellent information there that can help you think of questions you might want to ask. If you need help figuring out some of the abbreviations, just go here: http://web.utk.edu/~aalix/abbreviations2.html

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CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)



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Hi Anne,
Thanks, I am new in this group, In September 13 I got to know that I am having Tongue cancer ( Ulcer on Right lateral border of Tongue) & my Dr. who is ENT specialist he told me after biopsy that it is in a very early stage of same unfortunate that it is cancer but fortunate that it is in very early stage.

The Report :- Squamous cell carcinoma showing morderate to poor differentiation.

Neck - No palpable lymphadenopathy
Throar - No Trismus, No Ankyloglossia
There is 1.5cm x 1.5cm ulcer seen on right lateral border of tounge which is situated opposite to premolars, surrounding induration of 2 to 3mm all around
IDl : Both Vocal Cords Mobile.
HPR : Mod to poorly diff SCC.

Procedure Done on 08.11.13 - Partial Glossectomy (R) and selective neck dissection (Right)

I hope above details are ok if more details are required plz let me know.

Regards
Naveen

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Welcome Naveen.

Glad your cancer was found early, and only surgery was needed. As far as what you can do now is you can have scheduled visits with your ENT, who will do palpable and visual exams, scopes, maybe schefuled. diagnostic scans, and you too can be vigilant with frequent checkings of your mouth, neck, for anything unusual like ulcers, lump in neck, difficulty swallowing, etc. that doesn't go away. I found all my cancers, eight of them, on my own through self exams, except one, which were suspicious to the doctors also, and proven positive on further diagnostic testing, and that is key too, to find cancers early, instead of later, so they can be treated more easily. I think that's what has helped me. Abstinence from other carcinogens like smoking, drinking, chemicals, eating a healthy diet with fruit and vegetables, correcting or controling any other co-medical conditions like anemia, low vitamin D, thyroid, testosterone, kidneys, diabetes.

Good luck


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
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12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
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Welcome to OCF, Naveen! Sorry you have the need for our group.

Sounds like your OC was caught in its early stages before it was able to spread into the lymph nodes. Catching it early is always best for easier treatments and better outcomes.

You will learn many things about OC by reading and educating yourself thru our site. Use your experience as a wake up call to try to go thru life making the healthiest choices.

Best wishes with your recovery from surgery.


Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
surg 4/16/08 clr marg
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3/09 teeth out, trismus
7/2/09 recur, Stg IV
8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy
3wks medicly inducd coma
2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
PICC line IV antibx 8 mo
10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg
OC 3x in 3 years
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HI there... paul was on the mark with everything. Diligence is the key here.

One question... did the doctor mention perineural involvement? This is when the tumor touches a nerve. I ask this because my tumor (very similar to yours) was 1.5 cm deep - which is how yours was described. - mine was a little longer but the depth when dealing with nerves is what matters. Perineural involvement usually indicates that follow up treatment is needed.

There are several factors...
-spread to nodes (which you did not have)
-extracapular extension (which is related to nodal involvement)
-and/or perineural involvement.

the premise is that cancer follows the path of least resistance... in this case your nerves.

So based on the depth of your tumor, and the fact that you are moderate to poorly differentiated... I would be very diligent in knowing what is normal in your mouth, and neck and make sure you go for follow up appointments and hightail it back to the drs. at the first sign of anything unusual.

welcome - best of luck and congrats on getting through it.

PS - you may need physio for your neck and shoulder - r/t the neck dissection.

take care.



Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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Just curious why the neck dissection when no involved lymphs?


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1 tooth out
Jan '13
2nd tooth out
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4-6/2013
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Hi Naveen,
My husband just had his surgery yesterday and I feel so grateful that he got a second opinion. The first doctor was going to dissect the neck and remove a similar number of nodes from his neck, but the second doctor decided not to do the dissection unless he had proof that it was necessary.
We should get the results do the labs test next week to determine nodes involvement.

We're keeping our fingers crossed.

If no treatment is required, I says you are a lucky person!
Patty


Patty / husband Dx with Stage 1 SCC
November '12, BOT ulcer
June '13, first biopsy-negative.
October '13, second biopsy-positive
November '13, second opinion at CCC, T1
December '13, partial glossectomy.
September '14, biopsy on lymph nodes, 1 tested positive.
October '14, right side neck dissection. 14 nods out, with only one affected.
November '14, T1N1M0 radiation in the recommended by oncologist
December '14, radiation treatment

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After surgery for stage 1 cancer of the vocal cord we were surprised when the doctor suggested a neck dissection just to make sure there was nothing in the nodes. We were allowed to go on a 10 day cruise first but unfortunately my husband got very sick coming home with strep and the surgery was canceled. Then with the holidays and our son's wedding in CA it was re-scheduled in January. I felt we made a mistake by delaying surgery and going on the cruise.

I truly believe it was God's hand and his timing. We found out that his second surgery in the same year would not of been covered but by waiting till after Jan. 1st it was covered. Also, there was cancer found in just one node out of 23 that was very small.

I truly think if he had the surgery right away the cancer might not of reached the node yet and we would of thought we were home free only to discover it down the road and further along. Instead, he is doing great and life is good other than the loss of some of his voice. Things could be worse instead of appearing like you have laryngitis all the time.


Husband diagnosed Oct '11 Cancer of the vocal cord Nov '11 removed right vocal cord. Neck Dissection, cancer in one node, .2, very small & contained) Jan '12 Radiation and Cisplatin, 6 doses. June '12 & Dec '12 clear Pet scan. April '13 Celebrating 1 year cancer free since treatment ended.
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A neck dissection with certain types of oral cancer (usually non HPV) is often done as this cancer can be aggressive and seed to the nodes - in the early stages it does not show up on a scan leading people to mistakenly believe they are clean when in fact they are not - and usually end up with a second surgery once a node pops up. Nodes are sometimes precautionary - I've seen it happen numerous times (most recently to someone I know's husband) where they operated didn't remove any nodes or too few only to have the cancer come back with a vengeance. I scanned clean twice before my surgery (one was an MRI) my dr was insistent I was having a neck dissection, node popped up before my surgery. Scans aren't 100 %. Even if it's an early stage cancer how aggressive it is dictates the spread a lot of the time.


Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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