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#165771 05-31-2013 10:27 AM
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I am really hoping others here may have had similar experiences and can reassure me. My whole life I've had a sensitive mouth, with breakouts from foods/minor trauma etc. About mid-April, I noticed a small sore (white, kind of rough to my tongue, not terribly sore) at the base of my left lower canine tooth. Went to dentist when it didn't heal after 3 weeks. He scheduled a biopsy for 2 weeks later and in the meantime, told me to use hydrogen peroxide on the lesion. I did that and the area completely healed- there was nothing to biopsy, no roughness, no redness, nothing. About a week later, I developed an ulcer in the same spot. This time, we biopsied right away (awaiting results). In the meantime (2 days later), it looks like I am developing another ulcer at the base of an adjacent tooth. This is freaking me out completely. What could cause this? I don't have any lymph nodes or sore throat.

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There are many causes for mouth ulcers, including the ones you mentioned, in addition too, a bacterial, fungal or viral infection, neutropenic, anemia ulcers, other medical conditions, rubbing on a tooth, biting tongue while sleeping, rough or sharp foods, spices, medications, smoking, drinking alcohol. Glad you went to the doctor, any sore or anything unusual, not going away in two weeks should be checked out like you did. I would also suggest changing your toothbrush, as not to reinfect yourself if it is an infection. Most times it's something else other than cancer. Maybe also have a blood work up to see if anything is out of range or shows deficiency. Good luck with the biopsy.


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
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Thanks for your response. I will change my toothbrush and try to calm down!

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Since you have had "life long" oral problems perhaps an allergy should be ruled out.


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Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Again, thanks for your thoughts. I've thought of that and I'd love it to be allergic. I see my internist next week and will be following up on all suggestions. I think I have 2 real issues. First, I'm not sure I would have paid any attention to the first lesion if it hadn't been right where my tongue rests. I worry that I didn't notice it soon enough. I've been too cavalier about my mouth. Second, both my dad and brother are dentists, so I worry because of what I know from them.

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Dear Lou Ann,
we both seem to be in a similar situation.
I have made an appointment for Thursday.
Most probably biopsy will follow, unless malignancy can be ruled out right away which I doubt.
Wishing you
All the Best!
Take care!
Mike

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It's good you are diligent Lou-ann - better to be safe than sorry. Hopefully it is nothing. Some people are diagnosed with lichen planus ( which can also resemble an allergy to the amalgam in tooth repairs, implants etc... ) There is some connection to stress where lichen planus is concerned even though they have no idea what causes it. It could very well be this. Regardless I do hope your biopsy is an all clear. Best of luck


Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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My biopsy came back and, lucky for me, was not malignant. It was a Pyogenic granuloma, which is a proliferation of blood vessels in response to an injury. The second "ulcer" was the beginnings of a "satellite granuloma".They are most common in but not exclusive to pregnancy. LOL, I am 52! Very weird.

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Congratulations!


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
06/17 Heart Attack Stent
02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs






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What awesome news Lou Ann!


SCC Stage IV, BOT, T2N2bM0
Cisplatin/5FU x 3, 40 days radiation
Diagnosis 07/21/03 tx completed 10/08/03
Post Radiation Lower Motor Neuron Syndrome 3/08.
Cervical Spinal Stenosis 01/11
Cervical Myelitis 09/12
Thoracic Paraplegia 10/12
Dysautonomia 11/12
Hospice care 09/12-01/13.
COPD 01/14
Intermittent CHF 6/15
Feeding tube NPO 03/16
VFI 12/2016
ORN 12/2017
Cardiac Event 06/2018
Bilateral VFI 01/2021
Thoracotomy Bilobectomy 01/2022
Bilateral VFI 05/2022
Total Laryngectomy 01/2023
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Congratulations, Lou Ann; and thanks for being the Bringer-of-GOOD-news!


My intro: http://oralcancersupport.org/forums/ubbt...3644#Post163644

09/09 - Dx OC Stg IV
10/09 - Chemo/3 Cisplatin, 40 rad
11/09 - PET CLEAN
07/11 - Dx Stage IV C. (Liver)
06/12 - PET CLEAN
09/12 - PET Dist Met (Liver)
04/13 - PET CLEAN
06/13 - PET Dist Met (Liver + 1 lymph node)
10/13 - PET - Xeloda ineffective
11/13 - Liver packed w/ SIRI-Spheres
02/14 - PET - Siri-Spheres effective, 4cm tumor in lymph-node
03/15 - Begin 15 Rads
03/24 - Final Rad! Woot!
7/27/14 Bart passed away. RIP!
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that's great!!! ;o)


Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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So get the heck out of here!!!! lol


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Wonderful news, Lou Ann! (Hmmmm...you're sure you're not pregnant?) laugh

Last edited by Anne-Marie; 06-11-2013 07:58 AM.

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CG to son, Paul (age 33, non-smoker) SCC Stage 2, Surgery 9/21/06, 1/6 tongue Rt.side removed, +48 lymph nodes neck. IMRTx28 completed 12/19/06. CT scan 7/8/10 Cancer-free! ("spot" on lung from scar tissue related to Pneumonia.)



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Wow! Congratulations, Lou Ann!


My intro: http://oralcancersupport.org/forums/ubbt...3644#Post163644

09/09 - Dx OC Stg IV
10/09 - Chemo/3 Cisplatin, 40 rad
11/09 - PET CLEAN
07/11 - Dx Stage IV C. (Liver)
06/12 - PET CLEAN
09/12 - PET Dist Met (Liver)
04/13 - PET CLEAN
06/13 - PET Dist Met (Liver + 1 lymph node)
10/13 - PET - Xeloda ineffective
11/13 - Liver packed w/ SIRI-Spheres
02/14 - PET - Siri-Spheres effective, 4cm tumor in lymph-node
03/15 - Begin 15 Rads
03/24 - Final Rad! Woot!
7/27/14 Bart passed away. RIP!
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Great news Lou Ann. Go celebrate...


39yr old female, DX BOT SCC Stage IVA (T1N2bM0) HPV+
28 May 13 - Pharangoscopy & tongue biopsy
29 May 13 - BOT Surgery & right ND (lvls 2-5)
31 May 13 - Hemorrhage, emergency trach, critical care
BOT clr mgns, 9/67 nodes & extracapsular extension
Finished chemo (cisplatin) & 30 rads
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Yeah!!!!


Cheryl : Irritation - 2004 BX: 6/2008 : Inflam. BX: 12/10, DX: 12/10 : SCC - LS tongue well dif. T2N1M0. 2/11 hemigloss + recon. : PND - 40 nodes - 39 clear. 3/11 - 5/11 IMRT 33 + cis x2, PEG 3/28/11 - 5/19/11 3 head, 2 chest scans - clear(fingers crossed) HPV-, No smoke, drink, or drugs, Vegan
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