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I read in a recent paper that the KRAS mutation is only present in 5% of head and neck cancers, which is why there is no genetic testing like in corectal cancer.

I was treated at MSKCC and was not offered/recommended Erbitux as a sole chemo agent.


Andrew
age 25

early 10/12 - enlarged lymph node area
01/13 SCC of L tonsil, L BOT, 2 L lymph nodes
stage IVa, T2N2bM0, HPV+

2/13 2 doses cisplatin big bag, 2 doses weekly cisplatin + 35x IMRT
4/13 TX finished
7/13 PET/CT - NED!
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I can't even comment on this without hearing Charm.
We did 2 rounds of induction chemo, then we had Erbitux with the IMRT. Our MO wanted to add Carboplatin as well as the Erbitux but Kevin refused. I thought he was wrong to refuse, but it is his body and his choice. Now we often think back to whether that was the right choice because we know we didn't hit it with all we had. If we have a recurrence, we will always wonder....
I say this just to make you think this all the way through. Not to say you haven't I guess...but...this is your life. Hit it HARD.
Kathy


Kathy wife/caregiver to:
Kevin age:53
Dx 7/15/11
HPV16+ SCC Stage IV BOT/R
Non smoker, casual drinker
7/27/11 Cistplatin, taxotere,5FU 2/3week sessions, followed by IMRT 125cgy x 60 (2x daily) w/Erbitux weekly. Last rad 10/26/11. Last Erbitux 10/27/11
PEG placed 9/1/11 Removed 11/8/11
Clear PET 10/12 and 10/13 and ct in 6/14
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Kathy - and Jim,
one of my riding buddies is an oncologist. One of the things she told me is that sometimes adding additional chemo's just added toxicity, not an improvement in survival. We'll probably know in 10 or 15 years which of the current therapies is the best for a specific situation, but until then, we have to just do our best.
Maria

Last edited by Maria; 05-27-2013 10:47 AM.

CG to husband - SCC Tonsil T1N2M0 HPV+ Never Smoker
First symptoms 7/2010, DX 12/2010
TX 40 IRMT (1.8 gy) + 10 Cetuximab
PET Scans 6/2011 + 3/2012 clear, 5 year physical exam clear; chest CT's clear of cancer. On thyroid pills. Life is good.
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Yes, that's the risk, more side effects, and something really to consider. It may kill the cancer, but may kill you. My MO would not do chemo for three of my recurrences. On the other hand, combining several drug therapies will attack the cancer in different ways, since the chemo combined or target therapy, work differently to kill the cancer, and are not the same type, like Erbitux & Taxotere. There is hope at least one will work, if the other doesn't for some reason, and or act as a radio sensitizer. There are trials that usually show what combinations work, studies that show what doesn't work. NCCN has a listing for these for mono or combined treatments in HNC, Also, they don't combine two of same types of drugs, like Cisplatin & Carboplatinum, Taxol & Taxotere, etc. due to the toxicities. I had Induction Chemo with high dose Taxotere, Cisplatin and 5-FU..ouch! I'm still recovering 3.5 years later, so I don't recommend that. Others may have no problem.


10/09 T1N2bM0 Tonsil
11/09 Taxo Cisp 5-FU, 6 Months Hosp
01/11 35 IMRT 70Gy 7 Wks
06/11 30 HBO
08/11 RND PNI
06/12 SND PNI LVI
08/12 RND Pec Flap IORT 12 Gy
10/12 25 IMRT 50Gy 6 Wks Taxo Erbitux
10/13 SND
10/13 TBO/Angiograph
10/13 RND Carotid Remove IORT 10Gy PNI
12/13 25 Protons 50Gy 6 Wks Carbo
11/14 All Teeth Extract 30 HBO
03/15 Sequestromy Buccal Flap ORN
09/16 Mandibulectomy Fib Flap Sternotomy
04/17 Regraft hypergranulation Donor Site
06/17 Heart Attack Stent
02/19 Finally Cancer Free Took 10 yrs






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