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#155373 09-30-2012 03:11 PM
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Stage 3-4 Squamous cell BOT. Had spread to nearby lymph node. 1st ENT recommended surgery followed by radiation (and chemo?) Radiation Doc and Chemo doc said no need for surgery and 2nd ENT agreed. Highly recommended Chemo Doc suggested intensive in-patient Chemo followed by radiation with one 45 min.out-patient chemo per week. I week of 24/7 cisplatin followed by two weeks of recovery repeated two times. The last time, one month recovery before radiation began. 7 weeks of radiation five days a week.

I'm now five weeks out of radiation and feeding with a PEG tube. I can drink water easily but anything else by mouth reacts with my sore throat. I was first put on Oxycodone, then Oxycontin, then Fentanyl and then Morphine added. Nothing had any affect on the sore throat so I discontinued them. Pain has been a constant with or w./o and doesn't seem to be diminishing. Not too painful, just annoying and keeping me from getting off the feeding tube which requires 4 half hour feedings at least three hours apart.

Dry mouth is really annoying. My Docs said that water (tho extremely necessary to keep hydrated) does nothing for dry mouth but does help keep phlegm moister. A humidifier has been a big help for me at night here in Nevada.

I lucked out in connecting with an inactive OCF member and OC survivor who told me that she had acupuncture for dry mouth and it was very successful. Researching that on-line I see that the efficacy has been confirmed by many studies. Mayo, Sloan-Kettering and MDAnderson have all been involved in studies. I'm currently working with a local acupuncturist but am trying to locate an acupuncture protocol that is more current than 2000, the one my new found friend used.

Has anyone undergone acupuncture treatment for dry mouth? If so, what protocol did your acupuncturist use?

Thanks


Stage 3-4 Squamous BOT diagnosed 3/19/12
Molars removed 3/29/12
(Cisplatin) inpatient: 4/11/12-4/16/12; 5/2/12-5/9/12; 5/29/12-6/4/12
Feeding tube: 8/9/12-11/21/12
Radiation 8/10/12-8/29/12
Chemo 1X/week 8/10/12-8/22/12
Last PET/CT clear: 9/17/13
LeftyS7 #155376 09-30-2012 03:29 PM
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Not sure about acupunture and it sounds like your dry mouth is much worse than mine was, but I was using biotene dry mouth- mouthwash and it seemed to act as a band aid. It could be worth a shot. My tumor had actually ulcerated thru the top of my tongue quite a bit so even your average tooth paste would cause a pretty bad burning sensation, but the biotene seemed to be pretty gentle.

Last edited by Garrett; 09-30-2012 03:30 PM.

Wrong DX since 05
Tx Since 11/10 3 KTP laser surgeries
Correct DX Sarcoma Tongue 9/11
5 cycles doxerubicin + ifex 11/11
35x IMRT 03/12
Near Total Glssctmy/Right Nck Dsct + Trach + PEG 9/7/12
Recovering Nicely.
LeftyS7 #155378 09-30-2012 04:00 PM
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Lefty, welcome to OCF! Since you are only 5 weeks post radiation, there will be a whole lot of healing in your future. The dry mouth will get better in time. Many members have used pilocarpine to help with the dry mouth. I didnt like it as it made me sweat and I took it in the summer (girls dont sweat LOL!). It takes a month for every week of radiation to recover. Some people can take up to 2 years to fully recover. Things really will get better with time. Adding some high protein whey powder to boost your protein intake will help you recover faster.

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Best wishes!


Christine
SCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44
2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07
-65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr
Clear PET 1/08
4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I
surg 4/16/08 clr marg
215 HBO dives
3/09 teeth out, trismus
7/2/09 recur, Stg IV
8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy
3wks medicly inducd coma
2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit
PICC line IV antibx 8 mo
10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg
OC 3x in 3 years
very happy to be alive smile
LeftyS7 #155388 09-30-2012 07:32 PM
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Check NIH. They have a current study for Sjogrens patients but invited me to participate as a bone marrow transplantee since the symptoms are similar. I had a single acupuncture treatment there last year and it helped both taste buds and dry mouth! They also taught me acupressure that I can do myself. At the time, I was still receiving chemo so they decided they didn't want to do more until I'd been out of chemo treatments for at least 6 months. By then, I had improved to the extent that I didn't need more treatments.


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Age 59 ex-smoker 1989
1/10 dx MDS (blood cancer)
2010-11 21 cycles Vidaza
11/10 Bone Marrow Transplant
8/31/12 dx SCC left BOT HPV 16+ T1N2cM0
10/11/12 TORS partial glossectomy clear margins
10/24/12 bilateral ND/ii-iv 92 nodes all clear
10/30/12 dx revised T1N0M0 no chemo or rads
LeftyS7 #155403 10-01-2012 06:27 AM
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Certainly not a scientific study but in the 6 + years on this site those reporting the use of acupunture for dry mouth seem to be 50/50 in results and it's either it works or it doesn't and when it works it seems to be short term. I did not try anything other than say Biotene products. Their gum did nothing for me at first but now I chew it all waking hours. I estimate that I am back to appx 90% pre Tx in both saliva and taste but it's impossible to pin that % down since we all quickly forget what 100% was like.

Man you had a lot of Cisplatin, probably the most of any poster on this site. How's your hearing. I lost my high frequency in both ears due to Cis.

Our recovery can take every bit of 2 years and it really helps to consume tons of calories each and every day (I personally recommend 3000) and tons of water. I didn't gain one pound until sometime in my 2nd year of recovery even consuming thjat many calories each day.

The worst is over and now it's just adjusting to the new you. Hope you get off that PEG soon.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.

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