| Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 Member | OP Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 | Hi
I'm new here and just been diagnosed with Stage IV BOT SCC. Am scheduled to begin Chemo/IMRT on June 15. Last week had a neck dissection to remove a few lymph nodes on the left side of my neck, it was then they determined the cancer is originating at BOT.
I'm from Chicago originally, but have lived in SE Asia for the past 20 years. Currently working in Cambodia and will have the treatment in Bangkok, Thailand. Fortunately there are several excellent hospitals in Thailand.
Cheers.
Jimbo 5/21/2010 dx Stage IV BOT SCC T2 N2 M0 | | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Jimbo, welcome to OCF. You will find lots of info here to help guide you thru your treatments. Now is the time to line up people to help you while going thru rad/chemo. You may need help with transportation, meds, daily living tasks. If you can enjoy eating, now is the time to fill up. Dont worry about gaining a few pounds, you may lose some during treatment. Best of luck with everything. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 148 Likes: 1 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 148 Likes: 1 | Hello Jimbo! I wonder what time it is there ! Anyway, welcome to our wonderful family! Always sorry to have new members join though. You & I are born in the same year,same month! I turned 55 on 5/10/10 ! We even had (have) the same SCC. All my trouble was on the right side of my tongue/mouth. You will overcome! I wish you tons of luck with your treatment & please continue to post. Ask any & all questions that come your way. There are soo many smart, helpful & caring people on this site!
BOT T3N2M0 No surgery, 38radiation treatments,4 chemo rounds, peg removed 11/08, still have a port. Treatments ended 6/20/08. So far, so Good ! "I know God won't give me anything I can't handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much !"
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| | | | Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 251 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 251 | Hi Jimbo, Sorry you're here, but welcome! There is another expat (British) who was recently treated in Bangkok that could probably give you some tips on the treatment in Thailand. Click here Teacher jon to view his profile and email address. Hope everything goes well with your treatment.
Catherine
2mm tumor excised 09/23/2008 (floor of mouth) SCC (superficially invasive, well-differentiated) Stage 1, T1N0M0 01/2009 and 01/2010 - PET/CT clear Four and 1/2 years - NED! "Detection can be easy, treatment is not!"
| | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 Member | OP Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 | Thanks for the welcome, it's appreciated. I had a FNA 2 weeks back which was negative, followed by an ND which revealed the cancer. A Pet/CT pinpointed the cancer to the BOT. I finished up with the dentist today and will get fitted for the mask next week. Kick off date for Tx is June 15. Chemo 3x and IMRT 35x.
Christine, my wife will assist with my general needs, transpo etc. She's a sweetheart, but I really feel bad for her. cause she is understandably quite upset. Our dog is not too happy either as he is back in Cambodia and we're here in Thailand. He is used to coming with me to the golf course every am and riding around on the cart while I'm working. And yes I've started to eat everything in sight, last night was lasagna and tonite was ribs, of course I couldn't pass up dessert with that.
Dianne, we're 14 hours ahead of you, about 1/2 day. Sharing the almost same B-day is cool, but sharing the same Dx not so. Thanks for the welcome.
Catherine, First what does the 'RPVC' stand for? The only acronym I can think of is Returned Peace Corps Volunteer. I read through Teacher Jon's thread, he's certainly had a difficult time of it. I will reach out to him soon. Thanks.
Jimbo 5/21/2010 dx Stage IV BOT SCC T2 N2 M0 | | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,406 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,406 | Jimbo, I know they have terrific medical care in Thailand. Looked into it a couple years ago when my brother needed a heart valve operation. He eventually elected to stay in florida for that, but my bags were practically packed.
Keep us posted all the way. Stupid questions is an oxymoron, so ask away.
Courage! David2
(my situation at diagnosis was the same as yours: initial FNA negative, cancer found during the first surgery to remove that pesky "cyst"! And then the hijinks began...)
David 2 SCC of occult origin 1/09 (age 55)| Stage III TXN1M0 | HPV 16+, non-smoker, moderate drinker | Modified radical neck dissection 3/09 | 31 days IMRT finished 6/09 | Hit 14 years all clear in 6/23 | Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome kicked in a few years after treatment and has been progressing since | Prostate cancer diagnosis 10/18
| | | | Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 251 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 251 | [quote=Jimbo55]. Catherine, First what does the 'RPVC' stand for? The only acronym I can think of is Returned Peace Corps Volunteer. [/quote] Jimbo, You are right. My husband and I were in South Korea 1973-1975 (then underdeveloped); first job after college. We worked in TB control. We backpacked through SE Asia and Europe in 1975 and spent 5 weeks in Thailand in May/June. Saigon had just fallen and it was not an era when one ventured into Cambodia. Of course, everything is very different now.
I hope your treatment goes smoothly. If you need help or have questions, you have come to the right place. People on these boards are a very caring family!
Catherine
2mm tumor excised 09/23/2008 (floor of mouth) SCC (superficially invasive, well-differentiated) Stage 1, T1N0M0 01/2009 and 01/2010 - PET/CT clear Four and 1/2 years - NED! "Detection can be easy, treatment is not!"
| | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 Member | OP Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 | Catherine
I was a PCV in the Philippines in 1988 - 1990, forestry and have been living and working in SE Asia ever since.
Jimbo 5/21/2010 dx Stage IV BOT SCC T2 N2 M0 | | | | Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 251 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 251 | Jimbo,
We spent 5 weeks in The Philippines during our travels in March/April 1975. We stayed with PCVs much of the time while there. Loved the country. At that time South Korea was considered a hardship tour (no plumbing, etc.). Like you, there are quite a few of our fellow Korea volunteers still in SE Asia. It is an experience that remains forever. Thank you for your service to you country.
NOW, Go Kick Cancer's Butt!!!
Catherine
2mm tumor excised 09/23/2008 (floor of mouth) SCC (superficially invasive, well-differentiated) Stage 1, T1N0M0 01/2009 and 01/2010 - PET/CT clear Four and 1/2 years - NED! "Detection can be easy, treatment is not!"
| | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 Member | OP Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 | Well everything is in place to begin treatment next week Tuesday the 15th. I am finished with the dentist, picked up the flouride trays and was fitted for the mask yesterday. The schedule is to begin the rad treatment on the 15th and the 1st of 3 chemo treatments the following day. Any last minute advice???
Jimbo 5/21/2010 dx Stage IV BOT SCC T2 N2 M0 | | | | Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 507 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 507 | Jimbo, My last minute advice would be to start eating everything you like and lots of it.
Don TXN2bM0 Stage IVa SCC-Occult Primary FNA 6/6/08-SCC in node<2cm PET/CT 6/19/08-SCC in 2nd node<1cm HiRes CT 6/21/08 Exploratory,Tonsillectomy(benign),Right SND 6/23/08 PEG 7/3/08-11/6/08 35 TomoTherapy 7/16/08-9/04/08 No Chemo Clear PET/CT 11/15/08, 5/15/09, 5/28/10, 7/8/11
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Eat like crazy. Eat anything and everything you can imagine. Once radiation starts to affect your taste buds and salivatory glands, eating becomes more difficult. Things wont taste the same and it will become a struggle. So eat lots and lots now so you do not have regreats. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Have you had a hearing test? I assume you are getting Cisplatin which has a nasty side effect for some (me included)resulting in permanent hearing loss. I didn't have a baseline hearing test so it's impossible for me to prove that Cisplatin was the cause even though I know it was.
I would also ask for a baseline TSH as the radiation often destroys/damages our Thyroid leaving the "experts" to guess at the proper amount of meds to return us to normal.
Also start using the trays now and continue throughout your Tx and for the rest of your life. I did miss a few nights during and post Tx but wear them as many as possible.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,260 | Just listen to the ones saying eat while you can. After 3 years I still don't get hungry or have the abilty to have any taste at all except for the 1st bite. It;s strange to never feel hinger pangs and have the desire to eat. It's a force yourself that you will have to do and usually you will want to quit after a couple of bites. Good luck and fight, fight , fight this thing.
Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April. --- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
| | | | Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 711 | Jimbo,do you had a peg tube? Some have made it through without one but most have needed it as swallowing becomes very difficult or (in my case) impossible. I could barely swallow water and had to pulverise pills and take them through the tube. After treatment you may need to see a speech therapist to relearn swallowing as the muscles forget how.
David R. 65 yr old male non-smoker, light drinker, stage 3 or 4, depending on which doc you ask, scc rt. tonsil, 2 nodes, 7 weeks radiation and chemo. No surgery. Teatment ended 3/20/08. PET scan 8/08 showed no cancer. And now, as of oct, 2010, caregiver to wife, Linda, with breast cancer. May, 2013, Linda diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. Enuf already.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 108 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 108 | I agree 200% with a baseline hearing test. Carol had carboplatin instead of cisplatin due to the well known issues regarding hearing loss due to cisplatin. Carboplatin has some issues with hearing loss but not like cisplatin. She lost her ability to hear out of her left ear about 2 weeks into treatment. (She had a right ear mastoidectomy when she was 14). I purchased one of the over the counter AMPLIFYING devices, as a short term hearing device until she was able to have a hearing test. It's torture enough having to fight OC but to have hearing loss added to the mix? Unfortunately, Carol recently had a hearing test and she was told there is no correlation of hearing loss and the use of Carboplatin.
Having a baseline hearing test along with a baseline TSH should be pre-requisites prior to treatment of OC.
Linda
CG/Carol 57;SCC Stage IV L Tonsil T4N2bM0 12/2009 Recur 7/2010 - 2cm mass Invasive SCC L Floor Lower Jaw Surgery 8/10 - Trach,ND,p. mandibulectomy,pec flap ypT4aN0 HG Mucoepidermoid carcinoma 2nd Recur 1/18/11 - Tumor lower left lip Surgery 2/9/11 - Canceled - Inoperable 3/29/11 - Died
| | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 Member | OP Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 | I've got the "eat everything in sight" down pretty good, so no worries on that end. Thanks for the advice on the hearing test and the baseline TSH, I'll follow up on those tomorrow. Cheers
Jimbo 5/21/2010 dx Stage IV BOT SCC T2 N2 M0 | | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 Member | OP Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 | Hi Folks
Just finished the 1st week of Rads and 1st of 3 cistplatin treatments. Everything fine so far, only complaint is the almost-constant bloated feeling. I think its most likely from me eating as much as I can and all the water I'm taking in. I stayed in the hospital for 2 nights during the chemo treatment. They wanted to keep me on an IV drip before and after the chemo to flush it through the kidneys. Not to much to complain about at this point, though I do realize these are early days indeed. Just wanted to say thanks for your support and encouragement!
Jimbo 5/21/2010 dx Stage IV BOT SCC T2 N2 M0 | | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 224 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: May 2010 Posts: 224 | Well I will tell you my experience. I had 10 hour surgery, and am almost to the end of 30 rounds of radiation, only 12 left, so i guess a little over half way through, but i like looking at it as almost done. Not everyone is the same, and I have had people tell me I will be able to get through just fine without a peg tube, and boy were they wrong. I wish i would have gotten the peg in before starting radiation. Starting about a week ago, I wasn't able to eat or swallow anything, and I went 3 days with nothing coming into my system till they put a PICC line in and started giving me 2 bags of liquids everyday. I am scheduled to have the Peg put in on monday the 28th, and let me tell you, that day cant come soon enough. I have mouth sores on my inner lip, and on the entire left side of my tongue, because that is the only part of my real tongue i have left, also sores around the entire mucosa of my throat. They said they wouldn't show up until the 3rd or 4th week, but mine started to show up before the end of the first week. 2 weeks ago the thick nasty saliva started showing up and about a week ago I started vomiting about 5 times a day.
I am hoping none of this happens to you, but you may want to take precautions to be on the safe side. The minute you think you will need the peg, don't second guess yourself like i did, and just get it in. I regret not letting them put it in before my treatments, but i was nieve.
Hope you sail through this a lot better then i did. But neck and inner mouth radiation give you some pretty bad side effects.
Good luck and stay strong.
25/female at diagnosis Dx;stage 3 SCC tongue 03/25/2010 Surgery 04/13/2010 Trach,ng tube, peg feeding tube Hemiglossectomy, right side neck dissection, 40 lymph nodes removed. Free-Flap transplant to tongue. 30 rounds IMRT ended July 15,2010 | | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | Jim, week one finished without any significant problems. So far, so good. Sorry you feel bloated from eating so much, but keep it up. Eat as much as you can and drink lots of water. Being hydrated will make a big difference in how you feel, so push the fluids. Please keep checking back with your progress and questions. Remember everyone is different and some people struggle alot more than others. ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 224 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: May 2010 Posts: 224 | oh yes forgot to say, everyone is different. Some people just sail right through with little to no side affects. I am very jealous of them. So hopefully you will be one of the ones I am jealous of,
25/female at diagnosis Dx;stage 3 SCC tongue 03/25/2010 Surgery 04/13/2010 Trach,ng tube, peg feeding tube Hemiglossectomy, right side neck dissection, 40 lymph nodes removed. Free-Flap transplant to tongue. 30 rounds IMRT ended July 15,2010 | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,412 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,412 | My RO would not start treatment without the PEG tube. I am so thankful I had it. I had a rougher time than most with the stupid treatments. Had to take a break after week three, because my throat was so bad it had swollen almost completely shut and could barely breathe. Then I was in the hospital for a few days. Not everyone has the side-effects, I think I had a rougher time during treatment, but healed up rather quickly after treatment. I quit using my PEg just 2 months after treatment. I would do what you want to do or what you are comfortable with.
Angelia 31 at Dx. DX: 4/30/09, 10/21/09 SCC on floor of mouth, T1NOMO, T2N1M0 TX: 39 IMRT, 8 cisplatin 11/30/09 PET/CT: 11/03/09: Lymph node involvement PEG/PORT: 11/09 TX end: 02/01/10 PET Scan: 04/05/10 clear PEG Out: 06/21/10 Biopsy: 12/23/10: fibrosis HBO: 01/04/11 - ORN Baby girl born 11-30-12
| | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1 Member | Member Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1 | Well here goes... I'm David and i'm in the last two weeks of my treatments for head and neck cancer. Discovered Marched 22, 2010 via a protruding lymph gland on left side of neck. It was removed, PET Scan showed another node deep and below the first one and some cells but no tumor at the base of tongue. I have my last chemo treatment tomorrow with 8 more RT to follow. In a few weeks i plan to travel to Long Beach, California for further treatment using radiation implant therapy and hyperthermia for one week. I hope this is the right way in introduce myself and i'm in the right place... I'm 53 and my goal is to beat this demon on my terms. Look forward to anyone getting back to me.
David F. Byrd
| | | | Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Administrator, Director of Patient Support Services Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 10,507 Likes: 7 | David, welcome to OCF. You will find lots of info not just on the forum but also on the main OCF pages, both areas have search functions.
Please start a new thread when you post unless responding to others posts. This way we can properly greet you and the original poster gets the attention their post deserves.
ChristineSCC 6/15/07 L chk & by L molar both Stag I, age44 2x cispltn-35 IMRT end 9/27/07 -65 lbs in 2 mo, no caregvr Clear PET 1/08 4/4/08 recur L chk Stag I surg 4/16/08 clr marg 215 HBO dives 3/09 teeth out, trismus 7/2/09 recur, Stg IV 8/24/09 trach, ND, mandiblctmy 3wks medicly inducd coma 2 mo xtended hospital stay, ICU & burn unit PICC line IV antibx 8 mo 10/4/10, 2/14/11 reconst surg OC 3x in 3 years very happy to be alive | | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 Member | OP Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 9 | Hi Folks,
Sorry I haven't been on the past 2 weeks, as it turns out the internet server here was blocking this website (and a few others) inadvertently. After finally figuring out the problem was not with my computer, it was easily rectified.
I am almost at the 1/2 way point in my treatment: 3 weeks of 7 RAD is complete and the 2nd of 3 chemos is this week. So far so good. I have a little difficulty in swallowing, but can still eat 'soft foods' and have maintained my weight so far. The taste is off, but not too much. The dry mouth has not been too bad yet. I guess I don't have much to complain about for now. I think this week with the 2nd chemo boost will be a real test, after that I will be more than 1/2 way home and hope I will be feeling as good next week as I do this. Cheers.
Jimbo 5/21/2010 dx Stage IV BOT SCC T2 N2 M0 | | | | Joined: May 2010 Posts: 135 Senior Member (100+ posts) | Senior Member (100+ posts) Joined: May 2010 Posts: 135 | Congrats Jimbo on being almost 1/2 way through your treatments. Sure hope all continues to go well. Will be thinking of ya.
Aunt diag. 2/4/10 with SCC Stage I/II on left side of tongue. Surgery 2/19/10 part. gloss./neck diss. on left side/free flap from chest muscle. TI/II,NO,MO. Clear margins with perineural invasion. Started rads 4/8/10 - 35 treatments, finished 5/26/10.
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