| Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 396 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 396 | last week was a horrible week, mainly due to the PEG surgery. he is now in his 3rd week and starting to get sores in his mouth, sore throat and terrible mucous. the RO gave him some magic mouthwash. today the RO talked of extending his treatments. this just floored us. he is already tiring of the treatments and i have such a hard time getting him up to go. his blood work came back today and his liver count was double what is should be so he is getting a liver ultrasound in the morning. has anyone else experienced a problem with the liver??? i know the chemo filters thru the liver. he just knew going into this that he was going to be in that slim % that breeze thru this since he was so healthy to start, but it isnt going like that and it just kills his spirit. i try so hard to stay positive in front of him, but seeing him like this hurts me and i cant help but break down (away from him-dont want him to see me cry). thanks for letting me unload teresa
Teresa ----------- CG to ANDY. Nasopharyngeal Carcinoma (NPC) T2N2cMxG4 stage 4. 43 @ dx 8/31/09 tx 9/21/09-11/06/09 cispatin/docetaxel/5-FU X3 PORT 9/9/09, PEG 12/07/09 35 IMRT-1/wk carbo 11/30/09-2/3/10 tx stopped due to complications IMRT BOOST 3/08-3/12/10 PET 4/12/10 CLEAR! PEG out 4/14/10
| | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 | Hey Teresa sounds pretty much as expected sweetie.Watching the strong men we love going through this is just torture and will wear you down ,but for every bad thing that makes you cry,you will find little thigs to warm your heart.It will get tougher still i am afraid,but stay strong.xxx
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Liz in the UK
Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007 Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.
Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
| | | | Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 453 "OCF Down Under" Platinum Member (300+ posts) | "OCF Down Under" Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 453 | Hi Teresa, cry as much as you need to. I did, in the car, in the shower, in the shops. Tried to never cry in front of Steve but sometimes that would happen and if I could I'd leave the room. It's incredibly hard to watch someone you love suffer and not be able to stop that suffering. But you will get through this and so will your husband. I had moments where I thought the nightmare would never end but life has gotten better. You have a rough road ahead but remember if you need a friend or somewhere to vent just come here. I did and these guys helped me immensely.
Wife to Steve 43. DX 5 May 09. T4N2MO SCC tongue, floor of mouth, lymph nodes & jaw bone No surgery Teeth removed 06/07/2009 radiation 13/07/2009 x 7wks chemo 15/07/2009 x 3 Cisplatin last TX 28/08/2009 25/11/2009 PET-lymph node activity. 08/01/2010 CT Scan-ALL CLEAR 03/03/2010-Peg removed 01/2013 left side of Jaw removed and replaced with pectoral flap. 23/12/2020 scan show lesion in tongue 01/2021 SCC stage 3 base of tongue diagnosed 01/03/2021 chemotherapy started.
| | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,412 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,412 | Hey Teresa, your husband started his treatments that same day I did. Yes, teh throat pain is horrible. I am also starting to get those sores. I know exactly what he goind through. It just zaps your energy. I learned that yesterday when I was not able to get rads, but got chemo. Chemo did not phase me at all, but those ras, I now know wipe me out. I want you to know that it is okay to cry and get it out. We are here for you. I cry almost every day away from my kids and husband. Yesterday I cried on the way to treatment because I did not want to go. This place has been a big help to me. I will continue to post here when I need lift.
Angelia 31 at Dx. DX: 4/30/09, 10/21/09 SCC on floor of mouth, T1NOMO, T2N1M0 TX: 39 IMRT, 8 cisplatin 11/30/09 PET/CT: 11/03/09: Lymph node involvement PEG/PORT: 11/09 TX end: 02/01/10 PET Scan: 04/05/10 clear PEG Out: 06/21/10 Biopsy: 12/23/10: fibrosis HBO: 01/04/11 - ORN Baby girl born 11-30-12
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) | Senior Patient Advocate Patient Advocate (old timer, 2000 posts) Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,311 | Teresa,
Tell him that perhaps only 10% of us get by on the easy side so that means he's in the 90% group that looks back and says the Tx was barbaric. He's also right on schedule as most of us started having our side effects close to the 4th week of Tx so please let him know that he is NORMAL.
David
Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
| | | | Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,844 Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,844 | Teresa,
For you this will be emotionally more difficult then anything you've probably dealt with before. Get a hold of the caregivers on these forums, like Cookey (Liz) and Wendy to vent to and for advice. Caregivers have it the worst so make sure you are up to the task you've put yourself to. Without my wife in my corner I doubt I would be posting on these forums today.
For your husband, spirit and will are the tools that will carry a person through the worst fights. One, this isn't going to get easier yet so he needs to focus on the fight in front of him, take it one step at a time. Get on these forums, talk to people that have walked the path he's going down (I know, asking a man to get directions!). Get chemical help if needed, antianxiety, antidepressants are at your disposal, use them. If energy is an issue, shoot a 5 Hour Energy shot down the PEG (much better then tasting them). Use any means possible to keep in this fight, his opponent doesn't fight fair and will kill him so don't pull any punches.
He's in Texas for god's sakes...everything is bigger in Texas..including heart! I read books, I kept my mind occupied and as sharp as I could being on opiod pain medications. I reached out to people that could/would help...and I looked to my wife...my rock and got it done. I won't lie, I cried the last week of radiation and my last round of chemo but got it done. Then went on to the worst part for me which was surgery and the recovery from...which was easier for me mentally and emotionally because I knew if I could get through radiation/chemo I could do anything.
I've fought other men for sport and for spite. I've had knives, guns pulled on me. I've had bones broken and taken a left hook to the liver that would drop any man...but none of that prepared me for this fight. Sometimes it takes a woman to pull her man up by the boot straps, be that woman.
Good luck, you both can do this thing.
Eric
Young Frack, SCC T4N2M0, Cisplatin,35+ rads,ND, RT Mandiblectomy w fibular free flap, facial paralysis, "He who has a "why" to live can bear with almost any "how"." -Nietzche "WARNING" PG-13 due to Sarcasm & WAY too much attitude, interact at your own risk.
| | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 701 Likes: 1 "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) | "Above & Beyond" Member (500+ posts) Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 701 Likes: 1 | Teresa,
Like Wendy, I cried privately everywhere. The RO gave my husband Neurontin for pain which was a lifesaver by the 4th week. Also, he took Ativan every day prior to TX that helped with the anxiety. I used to say to Clark at the end of the day that he was one day closer to the end of TX.
Take care of yourself. Being a caregiver is a tough job.
Anita
Anita (68) CG to husband, Clark, 79, DX SCC 11/07, T4N0Mx, PEG 1/08, RAD, post rad infection 3/08, HBOT 40 dives, ORN, Surg 11/09 mandibulectomy w/fibular graft. Plastic Surg 4/10, 12/10, 3/11, 10/11, 4/12, 10/12. All PETS clear, PEG out 1/11. 6/11 non union jaw fracture Fractured jaw w/surgery 7/14 Aspiration pneumonia 7/21, 10/22 PEG 7/21 Botox injections
| | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) | "OCF across the pond" Patient Advocate (1000+ posts) Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,940 |
Liz in the UK
Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007 Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.
Never take your eye off the ball, it may just smack you in the mouth.
| | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 212 Gold Member (200+ posts) | Gold Member (200+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 212 | Hi Teresa,
All great advice above all I can add echos David, 90% of us get our butt whipped. They extended my treatment also, at first it was 33 days, then 36 then 40. I was also prety disheartned.
And I am also my wife cried when I was not aware, it is really tough on you caregivers. I am sure your hubby will appreciate it more than you will ever know.
Steve
70 male, athlete...again SSC of undetermined orgin , early july 09 40 tx radiation, 8 chemo cisplatin and ebuterx finished TX in mid Sept 09 Clear at the 6 year mark! Back to swimming, biking and running! just a tad slower never regained my weight, even when I eat lots and lots, just a skinny guy now
Just way glad to be seeing the green side up!
| | | | Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 396 Platinum Member (300+ posts) | OP Platinum Member (300+ posts) Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 396 | thank u all so so so very much. i have found an amazing amount of comfort on this site!
i know that the battle and his pain are only starting. the RO even told him that.
he has a very strong will to live. so i am not afraid of him giving up, besides i will literally drag his butt to tx if i have to--have no doubt!
as each of our children turn 21, we take them to vegas (3 down, 3 to go). our next will be 21 on sept. 30. he is looking forward to this, oddly enough-that keeps him going.
i know this is rough on me...i already see that, and its only begun. but we have a common goal...to live. i expect him to lash out at me, since i am the one here so i dont let that get to me. its just seeing him in pain and not being able to "fix" it that gets to me. one day at a time. one day at a time!
we havent gotten the results of the liver ultrasound yet, maybe later today...ugh, the waiting is torture.
thanks again for the advise! teresa
Teresa ----------- CG to ANDY. Nasopharyngeal Carcinoma (NPC) T2N2cMxG4 stage 4. 43 @ dx 8/31/09 tx 9/21/09-11/06/09 cispatin/docetaxel/5-FU X3 PORT 9/9/09, PEG 12/07/09 35 IMRT-1/wk carbo 11/30/09-2/3/10 tx stopped due to complications IMRT BOOST 3/08-3/12/10 PET 4/12/10 CLEAR! PEG out 4/14/10
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