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#105756 10-25-2009 01:29 PM
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A friend of mine told me about this site. I have a sore for over year a half, went to see ENT on Jan 5, 2009, not much was done, finally I was sent to do a needle biopsy on the left lymph node and on August 14, I was told that I have cancer on my throat. I am a 53 years old male never smoke nor drink. My radiation and chemo treatment started on Oct 6, I am currently close to the mid-point of the process, the effect of radiation is starting to show, I was thinking about using a feeding tube as I have great difficulty in swallowing.


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Welcome to OCF Stanley. You'll definitely find everything you need right here.


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Hi Stanley:

Welcome, I guess, to the forum. I'm fairly new myself, but believe me I am so glad I found this site. So many of the members share wonderful ideas/suggestions/solutions/experiences with everyone and it really helps to know you are not alone. I was told at the begining of my radiation/chemo treatments that I should get a feeding tube, which I reluctantly did. However, I didn't regret it later when I had such a hard time trying to swallow and couldn't. I kept mine for about 6 - 8 months. I had tonsil cancer 11/07 and treatments ended 1/08. Thank God, so far all my follow-up CAT and PET scans have been clear. Good luck to you and I'll keep watching for your news.
julieann


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Nov 2007 SCC on right tonsil following tonsillectomy. Was smoker, QUIT. (Stage IV T2 N2b) 7 weeks radiation one day/wk chemo (carboplatin and 5-FU). Allergic to Taxol; PEG in, lost 30 lbs. TX completed January 2008. PEG out mid- 2008. PET/CT 1/17/2011;2/3/12 NEGATIVE for cancer smile
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I, too, had a PEG tube and still lost 50 lbs. Would have faded away completely without it. Unfortunately, the truth is things are going to get worse before they get better. Now, 20 months out from treatment, I'm doing very well and eating almost normally. Best of luck to you on this rocky road.


David R. 65 yr old male non-smoker, light drinker, stage 3 or 4, depending on which doc you ask, scc rt. tonsil, 2 nodes, 7 weeks radiation and chemo. No surgery. Teatment ended 3/20/08. PET scan 8/08 showed no cancer.
And now, as of oct, 2010, caregiver to wife, Linda, with breast cancer.
May, 2013, Linda diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. Enuf already.
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I didn't have a tube but the maim reason was that I have had surgery on my esophagus and they wrapped 1/3 of my stomache around my esophagus to help stop reflux which was very bad and was eating my esophagus. T o put a tube in for neourishment, the Dr that did the Nissen Fundiplication would have tio be the one to indo the stomache and lower it back from my chest into my stomache. THen insert the tube. This is a very serious operation. I lost 70 lns during my rads, chemo and rad seed implants. Get it if you can becuase right now I am paying for it.


Since posting this. UPMC, Pittsburgh, Oct 2011 until Jan. I averaged about 2 to 3 surgeries a week there. w Can't have jaw made as bone is deteroriating steaily that is left in jaw. Mersa is to blame. Feeding tube . Had trach for 4mos. Got it out April.
--- Passed away 5/14/14, will be greatly missed by everyone here
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Stanley,

Were you tested for HPV?

Re the PEG, I didn't have one and I made it just barely. Would I get one if I was had my experience knowledge and was about to start radiation, probably not. The most important thing is to keep ingesting tons of calories and water each and every day.

It can get worse from now until about 3 weeks post Tx so hang in there.


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Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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I had a PEG put in prior to starting treatment and still lost 40+ pounds. Can't imagine if I had not had it. It was not a problem to use or care for and when I was done with it, it was a painless removal.


DX 2/10/09; Stage 1 SCC side of tongue; Partial Gloss; PEG in 3/3/09; 3 Cisplatin; 35 IMRT; PEG out 7/17/09; Eating via mouth and walking 3 miles/day 4 wks after treatment end. 50 pound weight loss; Clear PET 09/09 and 09/10
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Welcome Stanley to our group. I had a peg at the rec. of my cancer care nurses & also a medi-port. I am so glad I had both about the 2nd wk. of Tx. I also couldn't eat, my tongue was so sore from the rad. I lost 45Lbs (Best part of getting cancer!) But I could NOT have survived with out the peg. I never even had the full amount I should have,(only 3 or 4 cans per day) I was never hungry. (that is a huge help when people around you are eating such yummy food & you can't eat anything (because your mouth is like a war zone !) The medi-port is a implant under the collar bone, where blood can be accessed from i.e. IV's I say, take advantage of modern medicine! They knock you out anyway, when you wake up the worst is over! Best of Luck, Stay Strong!


BOT T3N2M0 No surgery, 38radiation treatments,4 chemo rounds, peg removed 11/08, still have a port. Treatments ended 6/20/08. So far, so Good ! "I know God won't give me anything I can't handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much !"

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I definitely endorse the port. That is the one thing I wish they had made me put in.


David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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I elected not to have a port, and considering that I had to have an IV every day (1/wk for chemo and related, 5x/wk for Amifostine), the repeated sticks got old. However, I also did not have to worry about maintaining the port, etc.

I did not have a PEG, but I am likely the exception and not the rule. My side effects were not as severe as many, despite the fact that I had 39 radiation treatments. I had to force myself to eat, with substantial assistance from the wife, and had a limited range of choices toward the end. I lost about 32 pounds, but was able to resume regular eating pretty quickly.

Very individual choice, but lots of wisdom here.


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SCC Right BOT Dx 3/28/2007
T2N2a M0G1,Stage IVa
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39 x IMRT, 8 x Cisplatin Ended 7/11/07
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Not too much to do about "maintaining the port." During treatment, the infusion nurses do all that is needed. When treatment ends and before you choose to have the port out, it simply needs to be flushed about every 6 weeks.

Bill still raves about how nice it was to have that port even for routine bloodwork.

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Deb..caregiver to husband, age 63 at diagnosis, former smoker who quit in 1997.
DIAGNOSIS: 6/26/07 SCC right tonsil/BOT T4N0M0
TREATMENT START: 8/9/07 cisplatin/taxol X 7..IMRT twice daily X 31.5.
TREATMENT END: 10/1/07
PEG OUT: 1/08
PORT OUT: 4/09
FOLLOWUP: Now only annual exams. ALL CLEAR!

Passed away 1/7/17 RIP Bill
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Hi Jeff, I also had the 5x/wk-Amifostine. Is your mouth very dry? My RO said I may not see the results for 2-4 years after treatment! My mouth is still very dry-I take water with me all day, home or going out. How long did you have the port in for? My RO says needs to stay in until @least 6/20/10 (2nd yr aniversary) Thanks! Dianne


BOT T3N2M0 No surgery, 38radiation treatments,4 chemo rounds, peg removed 11/08, still have a port. Treatments ended 6/20/08. So far, so Good ! "I know God won't give me anything I can't handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much !"

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I had a PEG put in after the first two weeks as I had a pretty severe reaction ( mouth sores, etc. ) to the radiation. I "only" lost 25 lbs. and found it a lifesaver for pouring down calories, nutrients, and medications when throat conditions only got worse. Good luck on your decision and with the remaining treatements. You have LOTS of company here.


Bill . . . SCC - originated in right tonsil, drifted into neck ( 28 lymph nodes removed - one positive ). Radical neck dissection in September 07, completed 34 radiation tx on January 4, 2008. Used Peg. Non smoker, 61, good shape, no previous health issues. Second year PET scan - "all clear".
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Mouth gets dry, but water does fine. Keep in mind I had both sub-mandibular salivary glands removed in the neck dissection, so my issues are not only due to radiation. I am about 2.3 years out from end of treatment, and some things get better(taste, dry mouth), others get worse (neck & shoulder muscles), but all in all not too bad.



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SCC Right BOT Dx 3/28/2007
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Bilateral Neck Dissection 4/11/2007
39 x IMRT, 8 x Cisplatin Ended 7/11/07
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hi guys my dads having his op on monday the doc said they were going to remove half his face dont know how to feel dont wana cry dont think ill stop anything advice anything you could say would love to here whats the best thing i can do for him

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Stara,

I responded to your PM so look for it.


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Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Stanley is a colleague of mine, and I'm the "friend" who suggested he come to the OCF. I have been staying in close contact with him as he enters the toughest part of his treatment this week. He's a very, very sick guy right now...I will update everyone as I hear of any changes.

BTW...............it's been WAAY too long since I've posted, and it's good to be back home!
Wayne


SCC left mandible TIVN0M0 40% of jaw removed, rebuilt using fibula, titanium and tissue from forearm.June 06. 30 IMRT Aug.-Oct. 06
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Hey Wayne,

Great to see you back here. Hope YOU are doing well.

Since Stanley hasn't been back since he first posted, I assume that he must be feeling pretty lousy. Hopefully, he can get back here to soak up some of the good advice posted above.



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Jerry
Good to see you too! Im doing well, hope the same is true for you.
All, Stanley is a VERY sick guy. He was hospitalized following his chemo treatment again, last week, and this week is entering his 4th week of rad. Today was another day in hospital for him so that they could rehydrate him a bit. I'm hoping to hear from him or his wife later today, and will try and keep everyone up to speed
Lastly...I hope EVERYONE is doing well! We have been very busy over the past year battling the beast, with an Uncle and an Aunt losing their fight, and my Father in Law now in hospice, with his battle coming to an end as well. My thoughts frequently turn to my friends here at OCF, even though time seldom allows me the luxury of getting caught up
Wayne


SCC left mandible TIVN0M0 40% of jaw removed, rebuilt using fibula, titanium and tissue from forearm.June 06. 30 IMRT Aug.-Oct. 06
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So sorry to hear about your friend Stanley and your relatives. It boggles my mind how many people I hear about almost daily coming down with some form of cancer.

I hope you hear some good news about Stanley and that your FIL is comfortable.


Jerry

Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.

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Wayne,

Nice to hear from you again even if the news about Stanley is not good. Did he ever get the Peg? I also had a very rough time with nausea which I think was more about the chemo, Cisplatin, than the rad but they didn't want to stop the chemo. That was also before recent favorable studies about HPV+ SCC. Did he ever get tested for HPV?



David

Age 58 at Dx, HPV16+ SCC, Stage IV BOT+2 nodes, non smoker, casual drinker, exercise nut, Cisplatin x 3 & concurrent IMRT x 35,(70 Gy), no surgery, no Peg, Tx at Moffitt over Aug 06. Jun 07, back to riding my bike 100 miles a wk. Now doing 12 Spin classes and 60 outdoor miles per wk. Nov 13 completed Hilly Century ride for Cancer, 104 miles, 1st Place in my age group. Apr 2014 & 15, Spun for 9 straight hrs to raise $$ for YMCA's Livestrong Program. Certified Spin Instructor Jun 2014.
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Hey wayne
so good to see your handle back on the boards again.Life goes on though and it never seems to get any easier does it.


Liz in the UK

Husband Robin aged 44 years Dx 8th Dec 2006 poorly differentiated SCC tongue with met to neck T1N2cM0 Surgery and Radiation.Finished TX April 2007
Recurrence June/07 died July 29th/07.

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All,

An overdue update on Stanley. So far: he's finished week four of rads. He's suffering from all of those wonderful side effects we've each endured; burns, loss of taste, pain...over and over and over again. He struggled with both rounds of chemo, initially decided not to have a third however he had a change of heart. His doctors determined last week that a third round of chemo was not warranted, so that was good news. He's a long way from being "well", but there is a faint light at the end of that long, dark "treatment tunnel".

On another front, my father in law is losing his fight with kidney cancer. The prognosis is grim; a matter of a couple of days at best. We're spending as much time as we possibly can with him...........
God, I HATE this disease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SCC left mandible TIVN0M0 40% of jaw removed, rebuilt using fibula, titanium and tissue from forearm.June 06. 30 IMRT Aug.-Oct. 06
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Wayne,

Sorry to hear that your FIL is losing the battle. it sure has been arough time for your family. I hope he isn't suffering.

Glad to hear that Stanley has the light in view. You are a good friend, for sure.


Jerry

Retired Dentist, 59 years old at diagnosis. SCC of the left lateral border of the tongue (Stage I). Partial glossectomy and 30 nodes removed, 4/6/05. Nodes all clear. No chemo no radiation 18 year survivor.

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